True Pimp asked:
You do know that they find every way possible not to treat a medical issue, because treatment is expensive, right? You know they don’t enroll people with preexisting conditions, right? Do you think they are going to allow themselves to have a year without profit and possibly go out of business when they have FULL CONTROL over their profits?
You do realize that the Current system was created by good ol’ Richard Nixon, right?
If you want a link to explain all of this, I will be happy to provide it for you. Please, NeoCons. Remember why you lost the last two elections. People are getting sick and tired of lies.
You do know that they find every way possible not to treat a medical issue, because treatment is expensive, right? You know they don’t enroll people with preexisting conditions, right? Do you think they are going to allow themselves to have a year without profit and possibly go out of business when they have FULL CONTROL over their profits?
You do realize that the Current system was created by good ol’ Richard Nixon, right?
If you want a link to explain all of this, I will be happy to provide it for you. Please, NeoCons. Remember why you lost the last two elections. People are getting sick and tired of lies.
And you think Medicare doesn’t deny coverage? I’d have you ask my mom, but she died last month. Oh and by the way, it’s going bankrupt. And I’m not a neocon.
Absolutely not!
They way they make money is charging more in premiums then the cost of what they insure.
The pre-existing conditions issue is a problem, and it needs reform in one way or another.
Learn what a neo con is and maybe you will get answers. Neo Cons are libs on social issues. They agree with you more than they agree with conservatives.
The way insurance co’s have a bottom line is how any business has a bottom line, by bringing in more than they pay out. That’s not rocket science. God bless.
Actually the more health care reform(the democratic versio) is held up and scrutinized the more people are against it. Why do you think he wanted it passed so fast. yes insurance companies need to be closer regulated, in fact i think the insuranc eindustry should be non profit, however the new billis not about health care reform it is about the government taking more control of our lives…
Read the damn bill and ask why they need access to your financial records and bank accounts..
They are retarted, remember..they voted for George W Bush
Even the Insurers admit it.
It’s True! Health Insurers Tell Congress They Cancel Policies of Sick Patients
Category: Laboratory News, Laboratory Pathology
Published: July 6 2009
Rescinding health policies of 20,000 people in past five years saved health insurers $300 million
For years, Americans have heard news stories about the sick patient whose health insurance policy was rescinded in the midst of a health crisis. Now comes public acknowledgement—at a Congressional hearing no less—that this business practice exists!
Executives from three of the nation’s largest health insurers admitted to this practice when testifying at a Congressional investigation recently. Observers believe the surprisingly candid acknowledgement about health insurance recessions pretty much guarantees insurers will be excluded from the health care reform debate. It may even ensure inclusion of a government health insurance plan in the final legislation which passes.
How can anyone defend an Industry that promises coverage and takes peoples money while they are healthy then refuses to give coverage when they get ill?
Catholics United Condemns Family Research Council’s Deceptive Health Care Attack Ads
Calls on FRC Action and “Stop the Abortion Mandate” Campaign to End Public Misinformation Effort against Health Care Reform
Catholics United today strongly condemned a new television attack ad campaign by the Family Research Council’s FRC Action lobbying operation that misinforms the U.S. public about health care reform. The Family Research Council’s efforts are part of a broader “Stop the Abortion Mandate” campaign that is using abortion scare tactics to turn pro-life voters against health reform.
In FRC Action’s ad, entitled “After a Government Takeover,” actors playing a husband and wife claim that current health care proposals would deny funding for essential treatments while providing public funding for abortions. Currently, no health care bill contains any reference to abortion, let alone a mandate for public funding of abortion. In a rebuttal to the attack ad, CNN.com notes that “the current bill does not contain any provision for taxpayer-funded abortions.”
In fact, President Obama told CBS’s Katie Couric on July 21 that the government should not try “to micromanage what benefits are covered,” and should continue to uphold a tradition of “not financing abortions as part of government funded health care.”
“Either the Family Research Council is seriously misinformed, or it is intentionally distorting the truth in order to derail health care reform,” said Chris Korzen, executive director of Catholics United. “If the Family Research Council was truly committed to human life it would focus its efforts on ensuring that the tens of millions of Americans who currently lack heath insurance can get the care they need. This attack ad is unhelpful, untruthful, and not at all pro-life.”
Catholics United is currently mobilizing its membership to email the Family Research Council’s offices and urge the organization to suspend its misinformation campaign. In addition, it plans a series of actions throughout the August Congressional recess to set the record straight about the current health care reform proposal and the truth behind the Family Research Council’s activities.
”people are getting sick..of lies”
You are right Please tell us again how we are on par with Cuba a country short on toilet paper Who flew in doctors and equipment from Spain,to care for the old fart
Please tell us how much better the Canadian system is A country were that English actress had a skiing accident and they air -vac her state side with a doctor on board a country that has less MRI’s than our city of New York That women who had 8 kids in western Canada flew to the U S to have them
You have over played you hand with your never ending B/S about your health care Your love of the movie sicko We are now taking a look and don’t like what we are seeing You are being exposed and you don’t like it
Conservatives will never admit to the real facts .
THE SECURITY YOU GET from health insurance reform:
* No Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions
* Insurance companies will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your medical history.
* No Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-Pays
* Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much they can charge for out-of-pocket expenses.
* No Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care
* Insurance companies must fully cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you prevent illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.
* No Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill
* Insurance companies will be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage for those who become seriously ill.
* No Gender Discrimination
* Insurance companies will be prohibited from charging you more because of your gender.
* No Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage
* Insurance companies will be prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you receive.
* Extended Coverage for Young Adults
* Children would continue to be eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.
* Guaranteed Insurance Renewal
* Insurance companies will be required to renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in full. Insurance companies won’t be allowed to refuse renewal because someone became sick.
Look at the Canadian health care system. More people die there because of national heath care. All politicians lie. Richard Nixon may have been a Republican, but he was no conservative. Yes to your question.
Really? And exactly who were the people behind the creation of HMOs? Let’s put some truth into this, shall we? Does Ted Kennedy ring a bell?
Congress created Medicare in 1965, making individual insurance for those over 65 obsolete. Subsidized, unrestricted health care for seniors lead to an unprecedented frenzy of spending by patients and doctors.
Costs went up, introducing an economic obstacle to individual health insurance. As costs rose, those on the New Left, including then freshman Sen. Ted Kennedy, argued that government ought to pay for everyone’s health care and promoted the idea of a health maintenance organization, a term coined by a left-wing college professor.
President Nixon appeased the left and proposed the HMO Act, which Congress passed in 1973. The law created new, supposedly cheaper health coverage with millions of dollars to HMOs, which, until then, constituted a small portion of the market. Kaiser Permanente was the only major HMO in the country by 1969 and most of its members were compelled to join through unions.
Combined with Medicare, the HMO Act eventually eliminated the market for affordable individual health insurance.
The new managed care plans mushroomed with federal subsidies. Employers perceived managed care as less expensive than individual insurance and stopped offering a choice of plans, making insurance more expensive for the individual. The government had effectively instituted HMOs, at the insistence of the left and the capitulation of conservatives and pragmatic businessmen.
Nixon’s HMO Act was passed 25 years ago. Since then, the individual has become a prisoner of the tax code. Covered by an employer and herded into managed care, the individual patient is powerless. Under managed care, if the patient gets sick, he or she may wander the maze of managed
bureaucracy, be treated, or, languish in pain awaiting treatment. The patient may also be refused treatment and die.
Premiums under managed care do not pay for an insured contract for medical care decided between the patient and the physician–premiums pay for the management of care, i.e., health maintenance, by a third party.
Once again, a system basically created by Democrats and guess what, it’s a failure!!!!! So now instead of coming up with options, you’re willing to let the government do even more?
Obviously you are not somebody that understand how a business and economics works. So let me teach you.
By government forcing insurance companies to insure everybody (including people with expensive needs) at a very low cost, this will result in A LOT more money going out and A LOT less money coming in. When this starts happening to an industry, you witness a collapse, similar to the banking industry. At this time the fed will swoop in and save them from their own destruction and start firing CEOs and appointing Czars. This will result in a completely Gov’t run system.
And like every other program run by the fed, it will be an expensive (paid by our taxes) inefficient monstrosity that will produce poor quality. Hope your brain can take in this difficult concept.
First learn the origin of the term neocon:
The term neoconservative was first used derisively by democratic socialist Michael Harrington to make clear that a group, many of whom called themselves liberal, was actually a group newly conservative ex-liberals
Secondly: It was Ted Kennedy who was able to have legislation passed to empower HMOS.
It was John F. Kennedy that empowered the Federal Government to provide (take over) for a nominal fee, through the Social Security Act of 1965, signed into law by Lyndon B. Johnson in 1966.
It was Bill Clinton who managed to allow Medicaid to tap in to those funds set aside for Medicare.
Perhaps a little more research would help you understand the facts.
Neocons – was an insult by Liberals to be hurled at other Liberals.
with conservative ideas, not Republicans although the new progressives seem to think that hurling insults is a the only way to express oneself, instead of using facts.
Nixon was nowhere in this mix. Health-care cluster-mess has always been done under the guise of making life better by Democratic Majorities with Democratic Presidents. This has been going on since the 1920’s. It seems to me the effects of the Democrats good intentions get worse and worse. Never better.
They have done a wonderful job of taking care of a system that is riddle with crime; corruption, fraud, abuse, and lots and lots of red-tape. Let us give them a standing ovation. yea! Deamocrats, not.
I ADMIT that the HIC make a majority of there money from refusing coverage.
But that doesn’t mean I’m going to let the government decide when it’s time for me to die.
I would rather die knowing it was lack of money that killed me, not some pencil pusher in a crappy government suit.